Monday, July 20, 2009

GUAVA For Android, GoogleVoice Unauthorized Android Voice Application.

Update:
Sipdroid Project has left a comment as well as another reader regarding the GUAVA. I have had no time to investigate the issue further but I will. This is not the first time Micheal Robertson made me say "HUH", I did not like what he did with Lindows, but again it was his idea, his product and his company. Above link displays a letter from I will keep a tab on this story and followup
The creator of the SIPdroid, I-P-Tel GMBH also provides Free SIP Accounts. Need to Add them to my The Free SIP Account Provider List
GUAVA For Android
So the Gizmo people have released the GUAVA, GoogleVoice Unauthorized Android Voice Application for Android and now you can make calls for free over the wireless connection using Gizmo5 and Google Voice (Grandcentral). It seem to work even witout a SIM card in the phone.
In order to use GUAVA, you need:
- Gizmo5 software
- A Google Voice account
- An Android phone
- GUAVA for android software
Once you have got that combination together, using the wireless connection from the Android phone, you can do many things, according to Guava;
- GUAVA lets you make free calls to any US number using your Google Voice and Gizmo5 account.
- GUAVA lets you receive calls to your Google Voice number from wherever you have a net connection.
- GUAVA lets you make free calls to Skype users
- GUAVA lets you make free calls to Googletalk users
- GUAVA lets you send free SMS messages to US phones.
- GUAVA lets you read incoming messages (via the browser)
- GUAVA works fine without a SIM card in fact that's how it was tested.
- You can get GUAVA software from www.gizmo5.com/guava
So check out how a GUAVA tastes without having to go to Hawaii!

6 comments:

Pascal said...

Betreff: From Sipdroid Open Source Project...
Datum: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:34:55 +0200
Organisation: i-p-tel GmbH
An: press@gizmo5inc.com

Dear sirs,

you published "Guava" in violation of the GNU public license.

Furthermore you removed the copyright notice. This is violating copyright laws.

This is highly abominable because you're stealing intellectual property. Please stop immediately. We will inform legal authorities.

alnitak said...

Guava uses code stolen from sipdroid in breach of the GPLv3

ravenII said...

Hello Alnitak, thank you for the information. Michael Robertson, known to sell his soul sometimes like with Lindows. I will investigate.

Hi Pascal,
Thank you. I saw the letter you have mailed to Gizmo. and I will add a link to your site. Keep us informed of future developments both with the Gizmo5 and Sipdroid.

dancho said...

http://groups.google.com/group/sipdroid-developers/browse_thread/thread/72cf357c21667ec3?pli=1

If you actually read the discussion you will see that Gizmoproject does NOT violate the GPL, and that it does give credit for work and provide the source code.

Also, see here:
http://code.google.com/p/sipdroid/wiki/Illegal_Usage_of_Source_Code

for a statement from the owner of Gizmoproject himself, who actually states that the source was available right from the start.

I did download the source, and the GPL license is clearly available with the source code. What's more, the apparent modification time of the files is at 5pm on July 20, which is before the time all the panic and recriminations from the sipdroid developers started.

I would guess that the sipdroid developers jumped the gun and should apologize for "shaming" Gizmoproject instead.

Just my 5 cents, and I hope this helps.

MR said...

Gizmo5 does not use stolen code in Guava. It's an open source project so they are allowed to take it and use it anyway they like as rules are followed.

And Gizmo5 is following the rules. Pascal of SIPdroid said copyright info was removed and it was not. There's a screenshot on the web site which proves it. In fact, it says "Guava is based on SIPdroid". Not sure how much clearer that could be. All the same copyright info is in GUAVA that is in sipdroid.

Pascal says "it's hard to find the copyright info" but it's in the SAME spot as it is for HIS software.

Also the source code is provided. The link is in the support area.

Don't take my word for it - look at the software yourself! And if you don't have time to look at the software then look at the screenshots I provided.

The real story is that Pascal runs PBXes.org and is miffed that a competitor is using sipdroid so he spreads misinformation. Then people don't bother to investigate and repeat the information. It's quite unfair.

Also, not sure what you didn't like about Lindows. I spent millions of my own money trying to compete with Microsoft, support open source software and bring prices down on software. In the end, we weren't able to crack the Microsoft monopoly but I think we still had a positive impact.

If you're using Firefox for example, then you're using code which we paid for and built at Linspire like the red underlining on misspelled words.

I have a long history of supporting open source. I've spent millions of my OWN money (not my companies money). It's such a shame that many open source advocates attack those that move in their circles. I guess it's better to be like Jobs who doesn't support any open source projects.

Projects I've given money to support are mysql, ogg vorbis, firefox, kde, nvu. I don't mind if people don't like what I do, but please deal with facts.

Thanks for listening.

-- MR

ravenII said...

Hi Dancho, Hello MR,
Thank you for your comments. I have been running around and actually did not have much time to go into depth with this.
It looks like some misunderstanding happened somewhere along the way.
Hope fully all this will come to pass and all us will be happy SIPers.
Both of you have provided valuable info and I promise that there will be a post, about this and hopefully we can clear all this up.
Thanks again for lengthy and informative comments.

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